Vilken tafs?

[knallskott1891]

I sjön där jag fiskar finns det chans att få gädda. Därav behöver jag en tafs till mitt abborre spö.

Personligen gillar jag FC 0.45 för att den tål dessa små gäddor och är osynlig i vattnet.

Problemet är att den känns osäker om det skulle kliva på en meter gädda. Det är inte varje dag det händer men det har ändå hänt ett par gånger, och då vill man ju inte tappa den pga att tafsen går av. Lyckligt vis har jag haft stål tafs varje gång detta har hänt. Men jag upplever att jag generellt får mindre fisk när jag kör stål tafs.

Vad har ni för tips? Klarar 0.45 FC en meter gädda? Oroar jag mig i onödan?

[Jester Burk II]

Knytbar tafs: https://www.ruoto.se/spinnfiske/tuf-.../087852505051/ håller bra för gäddtänder. Och priset är inte för högt.

[Daiwox]

I have been experimenting, and still do, for many years with leaders. This is a complex question in my opinion.
Theres is many things to take into consideration.


How hard is ur brake on the reel?
Less drag gives more forgiveness on leaders, but you need some drag to set hooks on bigger chatterbaits, spinnerbaits and jigheads. Often this matters a lot more on pike than perch, so if u are more interested in perch than pike, u can use a bit less drag, and therefore leader.

How heavy a rod do you use?
Many of the points from the reel brake applys here, and ofc u can use a thinner leader with a heavy rod if the reel brake is relative easy, but I find if u fish in weedy areas, u need a relative hard brake to rip free of the weed, and that demands a thicker leader, especially if u use a heavy rod.

Speed of retrieve?
The faster the retrieve the more pressure In the initial phase of the strike/fight. That often means u need to use a thicker leader when fishing with a high speed. This can be compensated with a looser drag and/or lighter rod. But since we often use rods related to the demands of our baits, and set the drag to the hooking abilities of them, higher speeds most often means thicker leaders.

Time of the year?
This means probably the most in my opinion. Fish in warmer water tends to have much harder bites, and more important to swallow the bait more, which requires thicker leaders. Especially in the summer a lot of the biteoffs happens in initial part of the strike.
This fact, in combination with fish in warmer water are less picky, makes me use quite significant thicker leaders in warm water than cold.
This is probably the most important factor to determine leader-thickness in my opinion.


Type of bait?
Jigheads on jigs tend to not to have so deep hookset, so often u can get away with thinner leaders for this. Especially in the wintertime where u fish slower.
Some research have shown that both musky and pike tend to consider the size of bait when they engulf it.
But when u use spintails, spinner, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits and spoons, they tend to miscalculate the size of the bait because the baits push way more water for their size than baitfish, and flash way more, so they tend to engulf these baits deeper than for example a jig.
If this holds true a thin paddletail-jig with a big and thick paddletail, will probably demand a thicker leader than a pintail with the same length.
I find this to be somewhat true.
Maybe because u often also fish spin- and chatterbaits a bit faster than ur typical jig, but I'm quite sure there is something to it.


Size of the bait?
Even though the pike MAYBE consider the size of the bait when striking, smaller baits tend to hook deeper, and therefore me more exposed to teeth, than bigger baits. For a 100 cm pike this often doesn't means a lot with perchbaits, but if u have mostly 60 cm pikes in ur waters , chatterbaits with a 12 cm jig trailer, will often not get sucked in to deep, and therefore can use a thinner leader.

Type of FC?
'I fished 0,6 all of my life and never had a biteoff'.
FC are different from brand to brand. The harder the FC the more resistant it is to biteoffs, but also kills the action of bites way more.
SG Soft FC 0,81 and Seaguar FC 0,80 is night and day in density for example.
Actually I prefer the SG Soft FC in density/biteoff ratio.


For the most part I don't think that a 0,90 mm. FC-leader don't bothers perch to much, but the problem is that thicker leaders often tend to compromise the action of small baits to much.
I wouldn't use 0,90 FC for a 7 cm. Twitch/jerkbait cause it kills the action, and I wouldn't use a steel/titanium leader for small jigs in cold water.

Chatterbaits and spintylebaits, can often be fished with with steel/titanium-leaders, since the action is anything but natural, and if the fish bite these kind of baits, the leadermaterial doesn't matter anyway.

If u fish dropshot on winterfish, u probably want 0,2-0,3 leader no matter what.

I tend to use 0,30, 0,46 and 0,60 for small jigs.
0,74-92 for chatterbaits/spinnerbaits (cause titanium/steel tend to 'hook up' the hook of the bait on the leader more often in my experience)
0,46-thin titanium for jerk/twitchbaits.
Small spinners, spintails, spinnerbaits and chatterbaits, a thin steel/titanium-leader is often best in my opinion. But is really best if tied directly on the baits, since the snap often make them 'hook up' on the leader.

If u not bring a lot of rods, steel/titanium-leaders can be a good compromise all summer, especially if the water is not to clear, which it isn't in my lakes in the summer.

AFW Surflon Micro Surpreme leader material is superior in my opinion, and I tried them all. And I mean all.

If u don't care about the pricecost of loosing baits I would go barbless and use thinner leaders, so the fish and shake the baits of easier.

I could keep on going, but I'm writing on my phone and have to stop now.

[anteman]

Jag skulle hellre pröva en tunn flertrådig stål- eller titantafs än FC 0.45-0.60 till borrefiske med frekventa gäddproblem. En 10-15lb oplastad ståltafs håller en del och målet är ju borre inte riktat gäddfiske. Kör du en tunn sådan tafs och ändå får gäddor som går iväg med betet så skulle jag byta fiske plats/metod.

[subwaygamesio]

Knytbar tafs: https://www.ruoto.se/spinnfiske/tuf-.../087852505051/ football bros håller bra för gäddtänder. Och priset är inte för högt.

Jag hade inte vågat köra 0.45 FC om det faktiskt finns chans på meter+ gädda. Funkar säkert ibland, men risken för avbit är ju där som du märkt.

Kör själv oftast tunn ståltafs (eller titanium) när gädda kan dyka upp, typ 5–10 kg. Tycker inte det skrämmer bort abborren så mycket som man tror, särskilt inte i lite grumligare vatten eller när de är huggvilliga. Alternativt en grövre FC, typ 0.70–0.90, men inte ens det är 100% säkert mot gäddtänder.